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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://thewhole9.com/blogs/thelegalroad/2010/01/27/do-we-have-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A contract needs an offer, acceptance and consideration to be enforceable and also survive any defenses to formation of the contract.  Plus, the contract has to be for a legal purpose (i.e. a contract to kill someone is not enforceable).  Here, if Lenny was attempting to get rid of the car before bankruptcy that may be considered a frauduent transaction which would void the whole contract.  

But assuming it&#039;s not, here is the answer:  

&quot;The next day, Tuesday, Lenny received an email from Nicholas:  &#039;I will buy your Rolls-Royce for $100,000.&#039;&quot;  This is the offer.

&quot;On Wednesday, Lenny e-mailed back to Nicholas: &#039;OK, it’s a deal.&#039;&quot;  This is the acceptance.

The consideration is the $100k purchase price.

So far, so good, looks like we have a contract.  But wait, there is a thing called the &quot;Statute of Frauds&quot; which requires that some contract have to be in writing in order to be enforceable and this is one of those cases.  The car is a &quot;good&quot; and sales of good over $500 require &quot;a writing.&quot;  The e-mail may be sufficient to serve as a writing because it was from the buyer to the seller.

Unless here is some kind of fraud with the bankruptcy and/or the tax, which would make the purpose of the contract illegal, it looks like they have a contract.

You may ask why Lenny&#039;s initial e-mail to his friend was the not the contract.  It&#039;s because a contract has to contain &quot;definite and certain terms.&quot;  Here, Lenny was merely thinking about selling:

“&#039;you know the car – the Rolls that I took you for a ride in last year in Vegas – I know you love it – I was thinking I might take $100,000 for it.&#039;&quot;

Lenny was merely entertaining the idea of an offer.

An offer has to contain &quot;definite and certain terms&quot; which creates a &quot;power of acceptance&quot; in the offeree (Lenny), i.e. it gives the offeree the power to accept the offer.

Btw, the sale of goods are covered by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) which modifies the &quot;common law&quot; rule of contracts by making it easier to have enforceable contracts and additional terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A contract needs an offer, acceptance and consideration to be enforceable and also survive any defenses to formation of the contract.  Plus, the contract has to be for a legal purpose (i.e. a contract to kill someone is not enforceable).  Here, if Lenny was attempting to get rid of the car before bankruptcy that may be considered a frauduent transaction which would void the whole contract.  </p>
<p>But assuming it&#8217;s not, here is the answer:  </p>
<p>&#8220;The next day, Tuesday, Lenny received an email from Nicholas:  &#8216;I will buy your Rolls-Royce for $100,000.&#8217;&#8221;  This is the offer.</p>
<p>&#8220;On Wednesday, Lenny e-mailed back to Nicholas: &#8216;OK, it’s a deal.&#8217;&#8221;  This is the acceptance.</p>
<p>The consideration is the $100k purchase price.</p>
<p>So far, so good, looks like we have a contract.  But wait, there is a thing called the &#8220;Statute of Frauds&#8221; which requires that some contract have to be in writing in order to be enforceable and this is one of those cases.  The car is a &#8220;good&#8221; and sales of good over $500 require &#8220;a writing.&#8221;  The e-mail may be sufficient to serve as a writing because it was from the buyer to the seller.</p>
<p>Unless here is some kind of fraud with the bankruptcy and/or the tax, which would make the purpose of the contract illegal, it looks like they have a contract.</p>
<p>You may ask why Lenny&#8217;s initial e-mail to his friend was the not the contract.  It&#8217;s because a contract has to contain &#8220;definite and certain terms.&#8221;  Here, Lenny was merely thinking about selling:</p>
<p>“&#8217;you know the car – the Rolls that I took you for a ride in last year in Vegas – I know you love it – I was thinking I might take $100,000 for it.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Lenny was merely entertaining the idea of an offer.</p>
<p>An offer has to contain &#8220;definite and certain terms&#8221; which creates a &#8220;power of acceptance&#8221; in the offeree (Lenny), i.e. it gives the offeree the power to accept the offer.</p>
<p>Btw, the sale of goods are covered by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) which modifies the &#8220;common law&#8221; rule of contracts by making it easier to have enforceable contracts and additional terms.</p>
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		<title>By: biko</title>
		<link>http://thewhole9.com/blogs/thelegalroad/2010/01/27/do-we-have-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>biko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first requirement of any contract is that the parties must come to a “meeting of the minds.”  That generally takes the form of an offer by one party and an acceptance of that offer by the other party.  

In this case, Lenny’s original e-mail was not an offer but rather a statement soliciting an offer.

Nicholas’ e-mail on Tuesday (I will buy your Rolls-Royce for $100,000) was the offer.

Lenny’s e-mail on Wednesday (OK, it’s a deal) was the acceptance and it was effective the moment he e-mailed it.  A contract was formed.

This was a simple contract.  If it had other terms - such as “when the money will be paid or when the car can be picked up, etc.”  - and both parties weren’t in complete agreement on those terms (did not have a “meeting of the minds”), then a contract would not have been formed.

Additionally, since this contract was for the sale of goods over $500, the contract had to be in writing and signed.   (Not all contracts need be written or signed.)

Courts have ruled that an e-mail bearing the typed name of the party is sufficient to satisfy the “in writing and signed” requirement.

Some other types of contracts that must be in writing:
Contract of an Executor or Administrator (people who answer for a decedent)
Contract of Suretyship (where a person promises to answer for the debts of another)
Contracts in consideration of Marriage
Contracts related to an Interest in Land (does not include a real estate brokerage contract)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first requirement of any contract is that the parties must come to a “meeting of the minds.”  That generally takes the form of an offer by one party and an acceptance of that offer by the other party.  </p>
<p>In this case, Lenny’s original e-mail was not an offer but rather a statement soliciting an offer.</p>
<p>Nicholas’ e-mail on Tuesday (I will buy your Rolls-Royce for $100,000) was the offer.</p>
<p>Lenny’s e-mail on Wednesday (OK, it’s a deal) was the acceptance and it was effective the moment he e-mailed it.  A contract was formed.</p>
<p>This was a simple contract.  If it had other terms &#8211; such as “when the money will be paid or when the car can be picked up, etc.”  &#8211; and both parties weren’t in complete agreement on those terms (did not have a “meeting of the minds”), then a contract would not have been formed.</p>
<p>Additionally, since this contract was for the sale of goods over $500, the contract had to be in writing and signed.   (Not all contracts need be written or signed.)</p>
<p>Courts have ruled that an e-mail bearing the typed name of the party is sufficient to satisfy the “in writing and signed” requirement.</p>
<p>Some other types of contracts that must be in writing:<br />
Contract of an Executor or Administrator (people who answer for a decedent)<br />
Contract of Suretyship (where a person promises to answer for the debts of another)<br />
Contracts in consideration of Marriage<br />
Contracts related to an Interest in Land (does not include a real estate brokerage contract)</p>
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		<title>By: awaken2sun</title>
		<link>http://thewhole9.com/blogs/thelegalroad/2010/01/27/do-we-have-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>awaken2sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...now, I remember a similar scenario and my memory is a little fuzzy, but I believe until the actual terms have been set (when the money will be paid, when the goods will be picked up, etc.) that it&#039;s not a legal deal.

Do tell...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;now, I remember a similar scenario and my memory is a little fuzzy, but I believe until the actual terms have been set (when the money will be paid, when the goods will be picked up, etc.) that it&#8217;s not a legal deal.</p>
<p>Do tell&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mikemichaels</title>
		<link>http://thewhole9.com/blogs/thelegalroad/2010/01/27/do-we-have-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>mikemichaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree atomictangerine, a bad move</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree atomictangerine, a bad move</p>
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		<title>By: atomictangerine</title>
		<link>http://thewhole9.com/blogs/thelegalroad/2010/01/27/do-we-have-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>atomictangerine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contracts w/friends and family? I real friend, no. A crap friend, yes. Only an idiot would ask a friend to buy his (anything) anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contracts w/friends and family? I real friend, no. A crap friend, yes. Only an idiot would ask a friend to buy his (anything) anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: legjr</title>
		<link>http://thewhole9.com/blogs/thelegalroad/2010/01/27/do-we-have-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>legjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lenny made an offer and Nicholas accepted it - that&#039;s a contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lenny made an offer and Nicholas accepted it &#8211; that&#8217;s a contract.</p>
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		<title>By: celestevoce</title>
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		<dc:creator>celestevoce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, this is a good one.  It sounds like it will be up to whether or not an email is more like a verbal contract or a written contract.  Nicholas might get off the hook since he never signed anything.  It could also be hard to prove that he didn&#039;t see Lenny&#039;s last email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, this is a good one.  It sounds like it will be up to whether or not an email is more like a verbal contract or a written contract.  Nicholas might get off the hook since he never signed anything.  It could also be hard to prove that he didn&#8217;t see Lenny&#8217;s last email.</p>
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